No Way Home Post-Credit Scenes Explained (Or At Least Wildly Theorized)
Like most Marvel movies, Spider-Man: No Way Home had two post-credit scenes. One came at the standard halfway point, after the fancy credits roll, and the other at the very end. No, I mean the very end. Usually, the last thing you’d see is the studio name. This is a bit different, and we’ll get to that. But remember, there are going to be a lot of spoilers ahead. Now, what did these post-credit scenes reveal?
The First of the No Way Home Post-Credit Scenes… Shouldn’t Be That Surprising
“That…guy.” Does Venom know Peter Parker? (Image: Sony Pictures)
Two-ish months ago, we all lost control when we witnessed Tom Holland’s Spider-Man appear in the mid-credit scene in Venom: Let There Be Carnage. So, it figures that Tom Hardy’s Venom would return the favor, appearing in one of the No Way Home post-credit scenes. Now, given that everyone coming through knew Spider-Man’s identity, why would Eddie Brock – who lives in a world sans Spider-Man – end up in the MCU?
Because it wasn’t Eddie Brock that was transported, it was the symbiote. The next question? Well, how did Venom know Peter Parker was Spider-Man? For that, we’ll look to the new Venom series by writers Al Ewing and Ram V. Brock is now the King in Black. Being King has its advantages. For instance, the symbiotes have a hive mind, so Eddie can jump from one to another as needed. Instantly. When Eddie realizes that he’s not just traveling through space, but also through time, he figures out that he can time travel through symbiotes.
Let’s go back to that post-credit scene and what it means for No Way Home. How would Venom know that Spider-Man’s identity? Because symbiotes from other universes and timelines knew. A Venom might have known a Peter Parker that looked just like Tom Holland in one universe. It could even just be the name. After all, Venom in Spider-Man 3 certainly knew Peter’s secret. Before they jump through universes, Venom tells Eddie:
“80 billion light years of hive knowledge across universes would explode your tiny little brain.”
They already know about the multiverse. Venom has already seen it. This was just the first time he traveled through it.
That Little Venom Moment has Big Implications
A little bit of symbiote can go a long way. (Image: Sony Pictures)
After Doctor Strange closes the portal and erases Peter Parker from everyone’s memory – in every universe – Eddie and Venom are also sent back to their own. But before they go, a small piece of the symbiote ends up on a bar counter. In Mexico. So, it might take a while for it to get to Peter Parker in Queens, but it’s on its way. It’s also on its way into the next Spider-Man trilogy. If producer Amy Pascal has her way, we’ll see Tom Holland returning as Spider-Man in the future. The silver dollar-sized symbiote is also a tether from the MCU to the Sony-Verse.
But will we see Spider-Man wear the black costume in future movies? Or is this post-credit scene in No Way Home just a little nudge to the fans? Well, it shouldn’t be. That would be like Coulson finding Mjolnir in Iron Man 2’s post-credit scene and then never doing a Thor movie. There’s also Tony Revolori’s Flash Thompson. Flash, in the comics, becomes the superhero Agent Venom, and Revolori is entirely on board for the role, if it ever happens.
Regardless, after No Way Home becomes the first post-COVID billion-dollar movie, everyone is going to suddenly be ready for that next trilogy. So now, onto not just a big No Way Home end credit tease, but also one of Marvel’s biggest post-credit scenes ever.
Spider-Man: No Way Way Home Second Post-Credit Scene – or, Better Put – Scenes
Image via Columbia Pictures
Let’s travel back in time to 2011. Then, the world wasn’t in a constant state of panic, and two Marvel movies a year felt like we were already in the golden age of superhero films. Peter Parker hasn’t run into that spider yet and is barely out of toddlerdom. And Steve Rogers woke up in New York City after being a Capsicle for 70 years. Then, finally, the post-credit scene started, showing Nick Fury going to Captain America for help. That alone would have been nice, but then we got the first Avengers trailer.
The last of two Spider-Man: No Way Home post-credit scenes does nearly the same thing. When the Sony logo came onto the screen, the entire theater groaned. What was this? Sony didn’t want to give us another post-credit scene? Well, they didn’t. Marvel Studios, however, has our back. We don’t just get a scene setting up Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. We get the first trailer! And there are soooo many goodies in it. It even mirrors that first Avengers trailer, as we get an extended moment of Doctor Strange going to Scarlet Witch for help. So, what does the trailer offer up?
No Way Home’s Second (Post) Post-Credit Scenes Show That Multiverse of Madness is Very Much a Doctor Strange Sequel
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It’s called Doctor Strange and not The Avengers in the Multiverse of Madness for a reason. This is Stephen Strange facing the problems he’s caused by casting Peter’s spell (does this mean that he remembers casting the spell, but if so, does that mean he knows Peter is Spider-Man? Or does he know he knew who Spider-Man was?) And we follow up with ally-turned-villain Baron Mordo, who looks like he traveled the multiverse of badasses and came out the ultimate badass. We also learn something from him. He tells Doctor Strange that “the biggest threat to the multiverse is you.”
Then we see Benedict Cumberbatch face-to-face with Benedict Evilbatch. We were going to go with Doctor Strange vs Doctor Evil, but apparently, that was taken already. Anyhow, the dark version of Doctor Strange has two prominent possibilities (out of infinite, of course. Multiverses, am I right?). The first is that this is a Stephen Strange from a, oh let’s say, dark dimension. But what struck me was the color scheme of Evilbatch. Muted greens, blues, and black? Kind of reminiscent of this guy:
(Image: Marvel Comics)
That’s Nightmare, who’s long been rumored to be the villain of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Did this No Way Home post-credit scene reveal that Nightmare is really…DOCTOR NIGHTMARE? It’s perfect! It’s – wait…a “Doctor Nightmare” was just introduced in The Flash #774? Guess we’re back to Evilbatch…for now.
The Other Big Reveal in the Multiverse of Madness Trailer
(Image: Marvel Comics)
This summer, we got to see a giant monster with one massive eye and multiple appendages battle a bunch of supervillains. Next summer, we’re going to see a giant monster with one enormous eye and multiple appendages battle a bunch of superheroes—subtle difference. Well, except in how they look and what they are. In The Suicide Squad, Starro is a nearly invincible alien from space that could release little Starros that attached to victims’ faces and controlled their minds. Shuma-Gorath is a nearly invincible eldritch god from an alternate dimension who can reach out and control his victims’ minds. No little Shumas needed. Totally different. And while Starro says beautiful things about floating in space and gazing at the stars, Shuma-Gorath is more:
“Before all was, I was. Before time was, I waited. I fed on the screaming souls of the universe – I drank the spoiled milk of dead stars – I am the emptiness outside all understanding. I am Shuma-Gorath.”
Thanks to What If, we’ve actually met him in the MCU already. Shuma-Gorath wants to break into different realities and conquer them. (Yes, Starro is also called Starro the Conqueror.) He almost ate Doctor Strange and fought with Captain Carter. We just didn’t see the big eye:
(Image: Marvel Studios)
Final Thoughts on the No Way Home Post-Credit Scenes
Aside from seeing him in action for a moment, we don’t know much of his role in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. The No Way Home post-credit scenes, as they’re meant to do, only gave us a glimpse of what might happen. Venom might come back. For all we know, Shuma-Gorath is the main villain of the movie or just a monster the primary villain uses against Strange.
See the Spider-Man: No Way Home post-credits scenes (and the rest of the movie) in theaters now.
To fully break down the No Way Home post-credit scenes, especially that madness of a trailer, we’ll need to watch them several times. And pause. And zoom in. Maybe get out the Comic Years custom-made tin foil hats that our podcast host Shah Shahid loves. But these are just our theories. What do you think it all means?
(Featured Image: Sony Pictures)
Roman Colombo finished his MFA in 2010 and now teaches writing and graphic novel literature at various Philadelphia colleges. His first novel, Trading Saints for Sinners, was published in 2014. He's currently working on his next novel and hoping to find an agent soon.